Remote control of our units has been built-in and considered since we first developed the DP100, with its options of MIDI, RS232 and RS485 interfaces.
As we always want you to be able to use you equipment no matter what interfaces they support for remote control or connecting peripherals, we try to find solutions that will enable this as simply as possible.
We have overhauled two of our solutions to simplify not only the parts required, but of course to also make things work better!
Firstly, long distance comms for RS485 connections to a PC or laptop.
We have tested many USB to Serial adapters over the years and our recommendation for a simple USB to RS232 adapter still stands – the Aten UC232A.
Our original solution to extending this to RS485 (as RS232 is limited to about 25 feet, although it will run reliably further at lower baud rates) so extending this range to 1000m and allowing a network of units to connect was to add an RS232 to RS485 adapter onto this. The KK Systems K2-ADE adapter worked well for this and so we had a kit consisting of the Aten adapter, the KK Systems adapter, and an D-type to XLR cable converter so you had a USB – RS485 on XLR solution ready to plug straight in.
Recently, some users have been experiencing difficulties with this solution, especially under Windows 8 – issues with AudioCore not picking up all connected units, or not getting all data back from them successfully. This has turned out to be a Windows serial comms timing issue and beyond our control.
So we looked for a hardware answer to sort this out.
We came up with a new converter that offers a direct USB-RS485 solution in a much more elegant (and cost effective!) manner, and still uses the same reliable chipset as we have been used to.
Note that this solution is for AudioCore only – we still have a different adapter to work with iCore for control of MC2 Ti Series amplifiers, processors and Dante breakout boxes. iCore does also support 4 Series (and DP548) as well as DC1048s and Ti1048s and so offers an alternative remote platform if you use these together.
All of this might feel a little confusing but it’s all summarised in the Remote Interface Guide (get it here) along with order codes and what’s supplied with each adapter, and a handy decision tree to help you choose the correct one for you application.
Going Wireless – new Walkabout Kit.
We’ve also been working hard on getting a new “Walkabout Kit” solution together, allowing both wired and wireless Ethernet connection to all units. Some of you have been experiencing problems with the latest DiGi Wisp WiFi to Serial converter – primarily seeing it on your list of available networks. A change in the firmware supplied with the units has unfortunately made them less than ideal to work with due to the fact that once we set them up here, if there are problems “in the field”, resetting them now renders them invisible on WiFi SSID searches, and they need to be manually reconfigured with a serial cable. We realsie this is just not practical in most circumstances. We will no longer supply them.
Instead we have changed to a Moxa NPort wired Ethernet to serial converter. This has several advantages. Firstly, and probably most importantly, upon a hard reset, the device can always be discovered and reconfigured as it has a wired Ethernet connection! Secondly, this solution can “go wireless” simply by plugging into a standard router, making it part of existing networks, instead of being an “ad-hoc” peer-to-peer connection. Lastly, it’s just much better! Set-up in greatly simplified and it’s more robust and reliable. Everything you would want!
The Walkabout Kit will no longer include an external USB-WiFi adapter as every device now comes with it built in and the quality has improved to the point that we don’t think it’s necessary to add this extra level of complexity. If you’re interested in finding out more about the Moxa Nport and how we configure it, there’s a guide on-line here which explains all.
Hi!
Last link unfortunately isn’t working (the “here” one). I remember what it includes (more or less) and I’ve just bought the Moxa 5150, DP4 Remote and don’t know how to solder the db9 pins to RS485’s XLR. Could you fix the link, please? Or post working one? Many thanks!
Hi Lukas – thanks for the info about the broken link…which page is it on?
In the meantime, the doc I think you need is here:
https://audiocore.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/moxa_nport_config_14.pdf
Cheers,
Waring
it is the last one link in the text above in the very last sentence, exactly with the word “here” beeing the link 🙂
ps. thanks for such a rapid response!
does the Nport 5110 work as well? It only operates with RS232 as opposed to RS485
Hi there and sorry for not seeing this earlier – the email alerts for comments often go into trash accidentally! The 5110 should work in the same way, yes.
They are all part of the same series, and differ only by their serial output capabilities.
If you have any further questions, please email tech@xta.co.uk – promise you will get a quicker reply!
Thanks,
Waring
Hi Team,
I’m using the DSP-4080, and to get remote access with audiocore, I’m using a usb to serial (RS232) converter CA-US9 from Cadyce. However I’m unable to establish a connection with the device. I’m only using a single unit and have kept the mode = RS232* SERIAL SPEED=115200* Stop MIDI Prog Chng Yes* Remote ID number = 1* on the interface Sub menu on my dsp4080.
so also the remote menu: RS232, Com12 (as shown in my device manager for windows7 laptop) & the Baud rate: 115200
Is there any alternate solution or any recommended usb to serial adapter I can use?
p.s my computer does not have a COM port.
Hi Danzel – I think we’ve been in touch with this via email but in case not then this is the adapter to purchase:
https://www.newark.com/ftdi/usb-rs485-we-1800-bt/cable-usb-to-rs485-serial-1-8m/dp/33R1460?ost=1740357&searchView=table&iscrfnonsku=false&ddkey=http%3Aen-US%2FElement14_US%2Fsearch
You just need to connect an XLR on the end and you’re done – the pinout is here:
https://audiocore.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/DASP1-12-1-USB-RS485-To-Male-XLR-Cable.pdf
Cheers,
Waring
Hi Team, this seems like the best alternative, USB-485 –USB to RS485 Conversion Kit where do I find this? where can I order it from? is it expensive than the KK Systems K2-ADE adapter??